Experiment: Optimal Ketosis for Weight Loss and Improved Performance, https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyxv-Kecjm1eH83nmDmVlvA. by sawyerpip » Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:36 pm, PostRe: Re: Pepsi Max Makes You Fat? JavaScript must be enabled in your browser to log in! I have a question. How? There are probably other issues with consuming lots of artificial sweeteners but I'll ignore those for now :). Pepsi Max is like sex in the mouth other pop is shite. Diet drinks don't cause weight gain or cause weight loss to stagnate (I continue to lose whilst drinking Diet Coke most days for the last year). It stayed at around 4,5 mmol/L (80 mg/dl) and the tiny variation is probably within the margin of error of the meter. That’s an oversimplification that ignores any hormonal effects and resulting hunger. by Jonathan86 » Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:06 pm, PostRe: Pepsi Max Makes You Fat? :). Why would anyone bother drinking something like this that tastes like crap and is full of man-made chemicals? Without a baseline this proves nothing really. by Slartibartfast » Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:51 pm, PostRe: Pepsi Max Makes You Fat? Indirectly, some studies suggest that artificial sweeteners trick your body into metabolizing things differently which might result in weight gain. Ditching your favourite fizzy drink for its seemingly innocent sugar-free sister is no better for preventing weight gain â and it could also harm the environment. I wonder: What if your fat burning is impaired for more than five hours, every time you ingest artificial sweeteners? The ketones probably reduced because the water in the (very large) drink diluted the blood enough to move the ketone concentration down. While some studies have shown an association between consumption of diet beverages and overweight, none has shown a cause and effect relationship. by Lagamorph » Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:21 pm, PostRe: Re: Pepsi Max Makes You Fat? "In the case of driving, you think you can make that corner, you think there is enough space between you and the car in front, and so on," he continued. I have a question. Social conditions. by TheTurnipKing » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:02 am, PostRe: Pepsi Max Makes You Fat? I sound a lot like this. by Spindash » Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:31 pm, PostRe: Pepsi Max Makes You Fat? Why not keep drinking the diet pepsi for a little while longer and see you you feel a few weeks from now? How? To address the experiment, ketone production is a byproduct of being in ketosis, not the reason for it. I usually have 2 eggs for breakfast, bone broth for lunch, and meat, cheese and a green vegetable for dinner. Just one Diet Coke or Pepsi Max a day can âtriple the risk of a deadly strokeâ and dementia YOU MIGHT want to put down that can of Diet Coke. Can artificial sweeteners from diet sodas affect your weight? Wiki User Answered . How? The above post, unless specifically stated to the contrary, should not be taken seriously. Your ketone blood levels mean nothing to being in ketosis or to fat loss. With the exception of d and e, you could still make the conclusion that drinking a Pepsi Max would elicit some form of response but it's impossible to pinpoint the causal factor. There are no calories in the soda so you won't directly gain weight from it. Helps cut down on total eating for the day as I do not feel like eating until dinnertime. Nice self-experiment though, I'll probably repeat something similar on myself soon but I'll test only once but I'll repeat the test once every three days for ten total tests to see if the response is the same every time. by Cyburn2 » Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:37 pm, PostRe: Pepsi Max Makes You Fat? researchers from the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health in the US Your body will stay in ketosis to keep using ketones for fuel as long as there is no glucose available. However, it's also impossible to know if the response wasn't caused by d and/or e so it's impossible to interpret the results and find the causal agent and you definitely can't conclusively say the response was caused by the Pepsi Max (let alone blaming some singular component of the Pepsi Max for the response). You may have heard that diet drinks can "make you gain weight" but when you look closely at this idea, it just doesn't hold up. Does anyone know or have experience as to whether drinking Pepsi max with water will effect the amount of weight I lose? This is a no brainer. Some medications can cause Grazing For Weight Loss, while others can cause weight gain. Researchers found that people who drink diet Pepsi have a 75 percent increase in waist circumference over the ten years study, compared with those who do not drink any kind of Pepsi. A ⦠Conclusion. Then it continued down during two and a half hours until it had dropped by almost 50 percent. Nice try, but stay in school a bit longer if you want to go the science route . I lost 15 pounds in 2 months drinking Pepsi Max. But I have hard times believing that drinking Pepsi Max several times a day will add anything positive to your health. Asked by Wiki User. Don't get your medical information from friends, tv or the internet. Perhaps this is due to insulin release, perhaps not. I drink a lot of diet caffeine free pepsi and it has zero effect on my blood ketones and appetite for that matter. My fasting and HbA1C has always been good. It makes you that way because all of the sugar. What a pity you can't actually measure insulin at home. Can confirm the same with artificially flavored whey protein. And mouthwater with fluoride, it's horribly sweet! It has sweeteners in it. Over the years, more artificial sweeteners were develop⦠How? Ok, your sugar levels didn't change and your ketones decreased, so I'm not having Pepsi Max on a daily basis. The first artificial sweetener dates to 1879, when a scientist working on coal tar derivatives tasted his work. 1.) Afaik my dad who's a professor claims there was never a single scientific study to back up aspartame being bad but since science tries to prove itself wrong I suppose somebody went with that hypothesis and it turned out to indeed be bullshit. Eat more. What a out toothpaste? The first four blood samples were taken before I started drinking Pepsi Max. By interacting with this site, you agree to our disclaimer. But then he tried to say that aspartame causes insulin spikes despite being non-caloric. It isn't the Pepsi Max, its the full English breakfast you are eating alongside it. How? Pepsi helps to gain weight Drinking regular Pepsi causes gaining weight. I wonder though, did you drink the Pepsi without any food all day? That would lower ketone levels, as ketones are very sensitive to insulin. We comply with the HONcode standard for trustworthy health information. I have used artificial sweeteners for over 30 years live a low carb lifestyle. As you can see nothing special happened to my blood sugar during the experiment. Hi Marcos! by Dig Dug » Tue Sep 23, 2014 9:34 am, PostRe: Pepsi Max Makes You Fat? Cola cola zero does not have the same effect, I have lost 28kg drinking liters of it.. saw the same results on my wife, half a kg down when she doesn't drink it and one kg up when she does. I want you to do the same thing with black coffee since it is promoted to drink during fasting, but it can mess with cortisol levels which must impact blood sugar, insulin, ketones, etc.? by tnman » Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:06 pm, PostRe: Pepsi Max Makes You Fat? Diet Pepsi is associated with weight gain and metabolic disorders, whereas Pepsi Max is associated with brain damage. Pepsi Max ⦠Drinking Pepsi Max (or any diet drink) in itself won't make you fat. I was in day 2 of a water fast and drank about a liter of Pepsi Max throughout a day of swimming laps in a pool and not ingesting anything else except black coffee and water. Regular sodas are full of calories, 140 per can and up. Top Answer. They'd never have done that before. Here is a link to our YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyxv-Kecjm1eH83nmDmVlvA. Am working on giving it up. pepsi max is sugar free and has virtually no calories so no u will not gain any weight at all. The only proof I have is my own use. Theres obviously been some kind of new research debunking the aspartme thing as all the Government 'Live Longer' campaign things now actively reccomened switching from full fat drinks to diet drinks. and how long time to rise back? For many years, it was used only medicinally as a product for diabetics needing to limit their sugar intake. Fat people can't handle these cravings, stuff their face, and make the diet drink of no benefit to them. Coke Zero does not provide any calories and is not a significant source of nutrition. Thatâs an oversimplification that ignores any hormonal effects and resulting hunger. Ketones are only a tiny trace element in the blood, so a large drink will have a disproportionately large effect in diluting them. It won't make you fat. Remember that you don't have to give up everything at once. A can of Diet Coke contains 46 mg of caffeine, while Diet Pepsi contains 35 mg (1, 6). PostPepsi Max Makes You Fat? Stay updated like 500,000+ subscribers with our weekly Diet Doctor newsletter. Two factors contributed to its rising popularity in the general population: a sugar shortage during World War II and thinness becoming the standard of beauty. I did the test with Coke Zero (more than 1L/33Oz). If nothing happened to my blood sugar the effect on my ketone levels were more dramatic. Absolute rubbish. On low-carb you build strong, healthy eating habits, and sometimes you make exception to these habits :) Personally, I have 2-3 beers around two times a month. by Frank » Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:13 am, PostRe: Re: Pepsi Max Makes You Fat? I'd say it has even aided my fat loss because it curbs my hunger. I think we need another test run with carbonated water. They are not the reason for it, higher ketone blood levels do not mean more fat loss. You also stated that if the artificial sweeteners weren't the cause of insulin production, then you surmise it must be the caffeine in the soda, but your next experiment will be coffee. Diet soda's..ugghhh. I am not in the medical field. One 12-ounce (354-ml) can of Coca-Cola Zero Sugar (Coke ⦠Does Pepsi max make you fat? so that brings me to #2 2.) Most diet sodas, like Diet Pepsi, contain no calories, so drinking a can ⦠Diet sodas have zero calories. I don't believe anyone have tested this scientifically. I test daily and my readings are pretty consistent running 2.2 - 2.7 mmol/L. I wonder if your insulin level did go up as other studies seem to suggest might happen. I have been on a low carb, almost zero carb diet for 4 weeks. How? The benefits of water over it are pretty negligible, but it might help to have a general healthier overall lifestyle... cutting out artificial sweeteners might make the real thing more satisfying thus you eat less sugar overall. I drink caffeine free diet Pepsi and there are other sodas that do not contain caffeine. Maybe because you are so keto adapted it wasn't enough to affect your blood glucose level but a less keto adapted person might have an insulin response and then a lowering of their glucose as a result of that? This is very interesting. If the above post has offended you in any way, please fill in, Lagamorph's Underwater Photography Thread. Pepsi max: Is a sugar-free drink that won't make you gain or lose weight. I did try diet coke some years ago and put on 5kg in no time. I don't think that a sample size of one makes for either reliable or accurate data. Perhaps I’ll do a similar experiment later, drinking black coffee instead. Social conditions such as poverty, social isolation and inability to get or prepare preferred foods can cause unintentional Grazing For Weight Loss, and this ⦠If youâre suffering from anxiety or depression, please take a moment to look at what youâre eating and drinking. Is it possible that it dropped because you drank it fasted. How? If I don't drink it after 5 hours, Will the ketone level rise back to the started number again? Aspartame found in the sugar free drinks that blubberbuts drink can cause unstable blood sugar, causing you to crave carbs and retain water. Pepsi Max and other products with artificial sweeteners are thought not to affect peoples weight, as they contain no calories. How? It's true, Diet Coke does contain just ONE calorie, making it a much better alternative than it "full-fat" cousin Coke, which packs 139 calories per 330ml can. That's the only crap I put in my body. How? According to Dr. Robert Atkins' Diet Revolution, circa 1972, he clearly states that caffeine consumption should be limited to two cups a day due to its ability to stimulate insulin. I would recommend that test with a sugar-free / caffeine-free drink... And remember that Pepsi Max has twice the caffeine of other diet pops. As a better future experiment, you might want to consider just mixing artificial sweetener with water, and then combining pure caffeine with water, and then have a control (pure water) and then possible even have a mildly salted water to hopefully rule out any response due to the taste. My thinking is that since ketones are produced when the body requires energy and burns fat to get it that perhaps the amount of caffeine in the sugar-free pop provided enough 'energy' during that short time frame that the body didn't need to find it from its own fat stores. How? I saw the same from 7UP zero. Not really, but if you drink too much, then yes. During the dark mark I drank the Pepsi (50 cl / 17 oz. But when I stopped the experiment, almost five hours after drinking the soda, it was still not back where it had started. Pepsi Max will make you fat because it tastes so god awful you'll go and drink three times as much of a decent sugary drink. after about an hour. I have stopped completely now. Diet Pepsi comes in different flavors like lime twist and lemon twist; conversely, the variants of Pepsi Max include ginger, vanilla, lime, and mango. The substance he had created was saccharine, which is 300 times sweeter than sugar. 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